Topic: RNG Analysis Software

[Steve]

Soon i'm going to have programmers work on software that will analyze RNG spins to check for patterns or anything that can be exploited. It will function as a sort of AI (artificial intelligence) where algorithms will be changed then tested, then results analyzed to check for statistical anomalies. It will not be like roulette xtreme where things need to be defined - it will be more on AI which is far more complex.

This is a serious push to find the "holy grail", without being related to precognition (which may very well be a viable answer anyway, but thats another story).

So in this thread I'm after ideas to put in the software. For example:

* different ways to visually represent data (to visually check for possible patterns). This is partly how I discovered how best to model the relationship between variables, other variables and spin outcomes for real wheels.

* Variables to try. For example, the software may be asked to see if specific events are any more likely to occur after other specific events.

For now it is very early days. I anticipate it will be free for everyone - a sort of "open source" project. The forum exists to find ways to beat roulette. Well it's for more than that for most people. But for rng discussions, the forums all go in circles with little or no organized/concentrated effort to get things done.

Please let's have serious discussions here about what can be done. This part of development is more about INTUITION rather than logic. Logic comes later. We are just after ideas. To this point, I have never and may never find a way to beat RNG. Real roulette is very different though.

[twister]

You really do too much 
When is your next holiday?

[carbine]

As you so rightly pointed out before, rng is not really roulette. However if anyone can develop a way to beat rng, I believe you are the most likely one to do it. I have come accross so many supposed roulette experts, but you have stacked up well above them and have taught me more than they ever have. I dont mean to swell your head but you really know roulette better than anyone. Kudos and goodluck. If you ever figure out rng, I will be there.

[Steve]

Thanks. Beating roulette is not what I'd consider a major feat though. I'm certain I've achieved more with roulette than anyone else, but in the end it is just a little ball and wheel.

[cwing88]

That would be awesome if you can find a correct way to exploit RNG. At least, I believe Steve you are on the right track.
But I think you are always ready for any challenge from both competitors and truth haters. But we all know, truth always win.

[JBT]

If you ask me, steve pays a little too much attention to "challenges". Bago and forester lost their minds when things happened on vls with ronjo and since then they got worse like some schoolyard revenge. On this I have no doubt you will succeed at the latest challenge nigh I do think it is a big waste of time.

For rng anyone would love to see you succeed but I would hate to think it would all be for nothing but time wasted.

jb

[JBT]

steve one suggestion is make the software online and integrate it into the cv software somehow. Most of us will  not care for rng but maybe it has a use in an online software situation?

[Steve]

The challenges arent a 'complete' waste of time - they show people that are actually interested in the truth. Bago is just a stupid kid who is trying to redeem himself after being proven wrong so many times. Forester cant handle other people are smarter than him, and he's running a business. And mark is running a business, while being a sick person. To those people, a challenge is a waste of time. Not to the public. But mostly yes I admit it is a waste of time. I keep saying I need a better hobby.

JB regarding your suggestion, the idea is to have the software running almost constantly and using AI. So it would not be practical to run on a server. There are too many limitations in a lunux operating system for this kind of thing anyway.

[Hawkeye]

While I believe the whole escapade with rng will end up being a waste of time, of the theories and material you have presented on the subject, like cwing I also believe you are on the right track.

[cwing88]

From the day I enter casinos, I have heard so many people say they are expert and would like to teach me how to play roulette. Both RNG and real one.

Last few times, I went to Macau, when I was sitting at the automated roulette machine, a guy came over and sat beside me. He said "I think when you are betting big, the machine will always against you." (Of course, he was referring to outside bets.) My face turned unhappy immediately, first, I really hate to talk to anyone else in casino (there are no good people in casino, especially in Macau), second, he is a outright loser. When he saw my face, he said with his great smiling "You have to believe me youngsters!" As I was annoying at that moment, I tried to calm myself and replied "What is the difference between a wheel using different balls?" He replied "No difference and I believed they are cheating with using magnets!" And he asked me to leave the casino and went to their casino to play. I left with quick foot. Most of the player don't care about the type of ball used, diamond, and settings. They want simple things like "the law of third" and "after several red/black patterns appeared, then bet for the same pattern or the opposite".

It's a bit off-topic. Sorry!

[Steve]

I have always said it: the gambling industry is full of the lowest people imaginable. It's just a dirty industry. Most players I deal with are good and normal people though. About 1 in 100 playters have serious problems with abysmall behavior even towards other players. Even some players end up threatening others to stay away from certain casinos and the list goes on. Thats why i always warn players to never trust anyone here or ever with personal information or anything that can be used against you.

Cwing with the type of person you are talking about, just ignorant morons. The world is full of them.

[cwing88]

By the way, what is their objective to threaten each other?

[Steve]

To keep the other out of the casino they play in, like it was their territory.

[dizzy12]

yeah there are some real wackos in casinos. I have seen someone kicked out for wetting himself because he didnt want to lose his spot at the table. Seriously. Who would do that sort of thing? It was disgusting

[Steve]

Dizzy... and on the other side of the world, that sort of thing happens here too. Where have you been anyway?